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Paula-C
#61 Posted : Wednesday, March 19, 2014 9:30:43 PM Quote
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My delivery is due next Monday.

Last Monday I hadn't heard anything so I decided to ring them up. I have two different numbers, one for MTX and another for Enbrel. I tried both numbers several times and each time it was engaged. Decided to wait till later in the day thinking that Monday mornings could be busy. I tried again late afternoon. Kept ringing both numbers and kept getting the engaged tone. I finally got through and was put on hold. I kept getting the recorded message, I get free 0845 numbers with my phone package, well free for the first hour so I put the phone on speaker and waited. Finally after 50 minutes the recorded message stopped and I heard a ringing tone. Success at last I thought....No, I was then cut off. Not a happy bunny I can tell you

The following morning I sat with phone in hand and waited till it was 8am and phoned again. This time I did manage to get to speak to someone very quickly. I did ask what was the problem the day before and was told that Mondays were always busy and their web page had crashed and lots of people were trying to phone. The drugs are being delivered next Monday.

When I had my assessment a few weeks ago the nurse told me that she was putting together a letter of complaint.

It's not really good enough when they are dealing with drugs that mean so much to peoples health.

Paula
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#62 Posted : Monday, March 24, 2014 10:08:21 AM Quote
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Well my Humira delivery last Wednesday was due between 8-12. It arrived at 12.20, and had a chat with the very nice driver. He used to work for Healthcare at Home. They have been TUPE'd to Movianto. (TUPE = typical modern work experience by which employees get transferred en masse to a new employer). Whereas when they were driving for HAH they were issued with mobiles, now they aren't. So he has no way to contact people and tell them he's going to be late. They don't have radios, so they are quite literally out of contact once they're on the road. And no, they don't have set delivery times, whatever HaH say.
I find it quite incredible that HAH's contract with the NHS allows them to divest key services to poor quality third parties, with consequent drop in service levels to patients. This issue has to be addressed by someone in NHS Procurement. Where in the NHS process, do patients get a voice about the quality of service from private contractors?
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Paula-C
#63 Posted : Wednesday, March 26, 2014 1:31:13 PM Quote
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Well the delivery arrived during the time slot I had been given.

She arrived at my door with 5 boxes piled up in her arms. The MTX normally arrives in a box with anything else I may of ordered....sharps...cotton wool buds. I had ordered 2 pairs of gloves so I did assume that these would be in with my MTX. She put them on the floor in my hall and I questioned why I had five boxes. She gave me the one on the top that had MTX wrote on it, she gave me another one with Enbrel in (that normally is in a plastic bag) and the one that said it had gloves in.

The other two boxes had MTX on the side and gloves. She was about to take these boxes back with her, but I asked if she would wait a minute while I checked the boxes she was leaving with me. The box marked MTX had one injection in, the Enbrel box was correct and the box with the gloves in did not have two pairs in but two boxes in. She then checked the other two boxes. One had the remaining 7 injections in the other had two more boxes of gloves in!!

It's a good job I checked the delivery or I would of been left with only one MTX injection. I said to her that she must be getting lots of hassle of people and at the moment adding that Health Care at Home could not organise a pee up in a brewery. She replied (not in a nasty way),.....well at least you've got your drugs, lots of people aren't getting theirs.

She then asked if I wanted to keep the four boxes of gloves because they would only get binned if she took them back......What a cost to the NHS.

The thing I can't understand about the gloves is surely someone somewhere should have questioned why one patient need four boxes!!

These people deliver drugs to people who have cancer, who have had organ transplants, surely they can't be going through the same as us? If we miss a dose of drugs, alright we may suffer, but it is not life threatening. It's really not good enough is it?

I don't know if I should email my specialist nurse to tell her what happens.

Paula x
P.S. Anyone want to buy some gloves.......I've got some going cheap.LOL
Paul Barrett
#64 Posted : Wednesday, March 26, 2014 3:29:51 PM Quote
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It beggars belief
Paul Barrett

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Kathleen_C
#65 Posted : Thursday, March 27, 2014 3:07:24 PM Quote
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Hi Paula,

There are indeed cancer patients going through the same delivery problems that we are. I found this out this morning - my promised delivery today was cancelled,

Due to an "error in the system," so I complained. After lengthy battle I was told someone would ring me back. Meanwhile, I phoned NRAS, who promised to take action, & I rang my rheumy nurse.It was the rheumy nurse who told me that cancer patients are caught up in this too. Anyway, my hospital are chasing thins up, and h@h have now phoned to say they are sending my humira by courier, and they hope it will be here by late tonight!

It's hopeless. This is happening every time, and both the hospital & NRAS are inundated with complaints, and are having to spend time following them up. We live in Durham, the humira is coming from Staffordshire - what will that be costing? It's absolutely insane.

My hospital have told me they are logging every complaint, so to keep on letting them know when there's a problem and they will do the chasing up, rather than me sit for ages on the end of a phone.

I think it will be a late night for me tonight.

Kathleen x

Paul Barrett
#66 Posted : Thursday, March 27, 2014 4:29:01 PM Quote
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Kathleen_C wrote:

My hospital have told me they are logging every complaint, so to keep on letting them know when there's a problem and they will do the chasing up, rather than me sit for ages on the end of a phone.
Kathleen x


The true scale of this catastrophe will only become clear when the results from all the hospitals in the country are collated. I wonder what chance there is of that happening?
Paul Barrett

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suzanne_p
#67 Posted : Thursday, March 27, 2014 7:45:06 PM Quote
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can't believe i'm reading all this,

nothing else to say due to my recent experiences except the last one,

over and out!

Suzanne
NRAS-Emma
#68 Posted : Monday, March 31, 2014 11:16:26 AM Quote
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Dear all

Healthcare at Home have asked us to share the following statement which I have posted here: http://www.nras.org.uk/m...aspx?g=posts&t=4625

Don't forget - if you have an urgent enquiry and cannot get through on the H@H phone lines, then please email your details to hahenquiries@hah.co.uk and one of the team will contact you.

Kind regards
Emma

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suzanne_p
#69 Posted : Monday, March 31, 2014 7:18:25 PM Quote
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as said in other thread,

can't say this re-assure's me at all,

never got a reply from my email just after Christmas.

Suzanne
Kathleen_C
#70 Posted : Monday, March 31, 2014 9:06:21 PM Quote
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What they SAY they will do and what they actually DO are two entirely different things.Words mean absolutely nothing. My hospital have advised I contact them with future problems with h@h, and they will do the chasing, as patients are having such a struggle to get their drugs - cancer patients too.

Kathleen

Paula-C
#71 Posted : Tuesday, April 01, 2014 8:47:42 AM Quote
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They sent a letter out to us (well I received one) December/January. In that letter they apologised for the situation and then said that things would improve. I think they put up a statement about a month again, still stating the same and here we are with more or less the same statement being put out......we wait for the next one.

As for emailing them, there is lots of threads on the Arthritis Care forum and the Healthunlocked and lots of people are reporting that they are not responding to emails!! I like the title of one thread on the Arthritis Care forum.....Health Care NOT at Home.

I belong to a hospital patient group for the Rheumatology Department and I can't attend the next meeting. I telephoned the lady who organises it and asked her to raise it at the meeting. She is very much involved with the hospital and is seeing one of the Big Wigs on Wednesday and she is going to raise the issue with him.

I did yesterday speak to my next door but one neighbour who gets his drugs delivered by them. He had a heart and kidney transplant several years ago and the deliver his anti rejection drugs, I am happy to report that he has had no problems whatsoever.

Paula x
helen-g-1
#72 Posted : Tuesday, April 01, 2014 9:41:20 AM Quote
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I've put a post on the Drugs HAH bit - probably the wrong place, so apologies for that. Should read the whole forum before I post!
Helen
anne_t
#73 Posted : Friday, April 04, 2014 12:38:18 AM Quote
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What do I have to do to join your club?
Sorry but I'm still getting Enbrel at the right time via email communication.
It comes from the Swanley depot. Does that make a difference ??
Anne
anne_t
#74 Posted : Sunday, April 06, 2014 11:58:10 PM Quote
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Update.
The Enbrel came as per email.
Thanked the driver!!
Still not in the club
Anne
Paul Barrett
#75 Posted : Monday, April 07, 2014 11:03:23 AM Quote
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anne_t wrote:
Update.
The Enbrel came as per email.
Thanked the driver!!
Still not in the club
Anne



Aren't you tempting fate? BigGrin
Paul Barrett

Hexham - Northumberland - Loads of spectacular walks - all I need now are the joints to go with them! :)

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anne_t
#76 Posted : Tuesday, April 08, 2014 5:20:19 PM Quote
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Maybe,but as we often say about allsorts of things

IT WORKED LAST TIME I USED IT. !!!
Anne
NRAS-Emma
#77 Posted : Friday, April 11, 2014 2:10:00 PM Quote
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Update on Healthcare at Home issues.

NRAS has been made aware of the many issues that patients have been experiencing recently with their Healthcare at Home deliveries. As a way of better communicating with patients the most up to date information, Healthcare at Home have launched a new website specifically to address the most frequently asked questions etc. Here is the link to the new website http://www.hahsupport.co.uk

Kind regards
Emma
Paul Barrett
#78 Posted : Friday, April 11, 2014 2:25:05 PM Quote
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I have had a look at their new website. The FAQ's make interesting reading. They talk about how they currently use a mix of premium rates and freephone numbers and how they are transitioning to 0300 0330 numbers. But get this - they are transitioning all of the numbers including freephone. So people who are used to using a free 0800 number will move to a chargeable number.

So what is the number 1 reason for anyone to call then? A problem with a delivery. So why are we required to pay for their service failure? Surely they should be free calls?

At least we now have the truth about the scale of the problem. Calls have trebled from 3,000 to 9,000. So far from it being a tiny problems we now know that thousands of people have been affected. But they still can't stop themselves from being economical with the truth. They still maintain it's a small proportion that have been affected. Stop using weasel words. By their own admission it's thousands of people Stop lying H@H
Paul Barrett

Hexham - Northumberland - Loads of spectacular walks - all I need now are the joints to go with them! :)

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NRAS-Emma
#79 Posted : Monday, April 14, 2014 12:15:54 PM Quote
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Another statement but this time from Abbvie (who supply Humira) regarding Healthcare at Home:

http://nras.org.uk/news_...dalimumab_patients.aspx

Kind regards
Emma
Paul Barrett
#80 Posted : Monday, April 14, 2014 3:01:13 PM Quote
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Interesting. So the trouble with H&H is so bad that the drug manufacturers are releasing announcements to try and distance themselves from the problem. Hmm. Does this mean the writing's on the wall for H&H? We should probably hope so?
Paul Barrett

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